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| Uche Oyemike on 99.5 Wazobia Fm Abuja |
As Soldiers pursue Mubi students’
killers, President Goodluck Jonathan, Senate and others condemn killing of over
20 Students in Mubi Fed Polytechnic, NANS declares 3 days mourning.
The Nigeria Senate say
capital punishment should be made for terrorists. Uche Oyemike Ossai, an
ex-cultist had a chat with me to help establish the possibility of
Cultists performing the dastardly act of the Killings in Mubi Fed Pol...with possible insurgents.
--The attacks have led to the
death of a retired soldier, a guard and the father of a student.
--The Editor, British
Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) Hausa service, Mansur Liman, said the newly
elected leader of the students union of the school, Chimaobi Venitus Mbaegbu,
was among those killed in the incident.
-- The police spokesman, Mohamed Ibrahim, on Wednesday,
said some arrests had been made, adding that the Force Headquarters would soon
come out with fact on what really transpired in Mubi.
-- Head of the Red Cross in the state, Abubakar Ahmed,
who confirmed the development, said “the soldiers are going from house to house
searching.”
PETER: Hello,
tell us your name please...
UCHE:
My name is Uche Onyemike Osai
PETER: In your opinion, do you think there may be an
affiliation between the
Killers
of students of the Federal Polytechnic
Mubi and the Boko Haram Sect Insurgence
In Nigeria.
UCHE: Errm…
to a large extent, violence is violence,
and many a times, there is
connectivity
Between them but I
think that the connection is,
a situation whereby the same people
That may be sponsoring
Boko Haram might
also be the same sponsors of cultism…
because when you go through University,
you
have to go through cultism in Universities
and what we have in
operation is cultism.
Outside Universities we have the terrorists
groups too. So, for
them to carry out any
operation like the one they carried out in
Adamawa, it has to be
more of political/campus
politics than anything that just took
place in Adamawa.
PETER: Do you think that cultism has a major role to
play in this violence?
UCHE: Yes! From the way I looked at everything
because I took time to go through the different
papers and looked
at what happened. It goes to show that they had SUG election and
from my understanding; because
I have been involved in cultism and politics in time
past. I understand that, probably they had a
student they were projecting, a cult
member that
represents them as students that they are projecting and probably, these
other groups are
also coming with people that have more credibility than their own
candidate. So, in order not to stand in their
way; because this is something about cult,
they can go to
any length to stop anybody except God helps you.
So that’s what I
see, I see a situation where they try to…because the story has
It that they came with names of those they
wanted to attack. They knew specifically,
the people they
wanted to kill and so when they call your name, you come and they
shoot
you. It goes to show that it’s a targeted operation, at a specific people and
that is
what they did,
not to hinder their operations.
PETER: As an ex-cultist,
you have had enough of experiences, what exactly is your concern
now, how do
you fight these issues? Tell us more about your outfit and what exactly
you do?
UCHE: Errm…, while on
campus actually, we started with the group known as the
“call out ones”. We were also collaborating then, with a group in
the University
of Lagos called the “Campus Drum”. We were working together,
reaching out and having more people, certain
individuals were helping us too.
I want to thank God for Bishop
Margaret Idahosa, she was one person that
was standing behind us, sponsoring
us. Then, her son too, Dr. Idahosa through
TV programs, then
we had TV programs all over the nation, MINAJ,
everywhere.
Then Bishop Dr. Gordon Osagede;
Spring and Live Bible Church of Blessed
Memory, was also
somebody that stood by us…These were the people that helped,
sponsor and
encouraged us while on campus, but after our generation it wasn’t like
that anymore. Some
of the people that we affected came out and would come
together from
time to time; Just trying to empower themselves, some looking for
jobs, some had
gotten
jobs one way or the other so, our meager resources, we normally put
together
to reach out to these campuses in our way but it has not gone the way we
expected it
because we really need empowerment. This thing is all about
empowerment and
co-operation from the school authorities; for instance, we could not
enter into
University of Lagos without first informing the school authority so that we
can work together
for security reasons. Then we worked together.
All we do; we are the
resource person(s), but they bring the audience and
everyone we
speak to. They do everything, we just come and speak and tell them the
disadvantages
of cultism, the dangers that it entails and encourage those that want to
come out, because many want to come out, but
they don’t know how to come out of
it. So, we
tell them how we came out and through that, they come out and lives are
being changed that way. It might not be everybody
that wants to come out,
but if we
can go round all the Universities in the six geopolitical zones and reach out
to them, and
speak to those and they see us, as a living testimony,
that will
not just be done with lip service.
We need serious empowerment, so that is
why we believe God that
He can used
some Nigerians to do such for us.
PETER: But do you have support from the
school authorities whenever you approach
them?.
UCHE: We don’t
normally look for support from the school authorities. What we do, is that
we present
a proposal. We came as the resource persons. All they have to do, they
do?; the
publicity, the target audience, they gather them for us.
PETER: Do
they usually accept you?
UCHE: Some schools like Unilag and some other few
schools accept us, but some schools will
resist
you. They will not even want you to come. It goes to show that, majority of
the
school authorities are involved majorly.
I remember in the University of Lagos, when
I was talking to one of the
Lecturers, he said something, in Faculty of
Law, “he
went out” . He said
People did not know. This is the first time he’s
saying it in his life, because he is so
touched by what
we were doing. He was one of the Deans because we had all the
Deans on
the seat, we had the vice chancellor representing. Everybody was there.
So he
said he was touched but wants to say this to everybody for the first time
Because he’s
seeing a group of what no other people are doing and he said;
When he saw a Kegite
group in town, he went for a program and he
Just liked
to join them and before he knew, they turned this thing from Kegite
into
Initiation. So,
when he saw that it was a cult group; “Eyeh” group that
Was fronting
as a Kegite. He Immediately withdrew and he said he’s not joining.
So, he
ran back to school. When he got back to school, he was shocked to see
that two
of his lecturers in his department called him and told him; ‘If you don’t go
and
finish what you started out, you are not graduating from this department’. Are
you
getting it? So, we have been involved. We know a lot of Lecturers, Non
Academic Staff, NASU, ASUU, Staffs that are
involved in this thing, they use it for
their own
profit , benefit. Politicians are the major backup of these people that’s
why you see
that most of these people, when they graduate, they put them in
political offices. They are this…and people
are still looking up to these people!
Because one
thing is that when someone goes through cultism and he is made a
Security Adviser
to this and to that, other people want to be encouraged; Ah, if this
guy made
it through cultism... if this guy succeeded through cultism ,
let me go through cultism and succeed, but
there are also a group of people that
are succeeding outside cultism that have been there
that came out but people
don’t talk about us much because we are not empowered
the way those groups
are
empowered. So, I think that’s just the situation I see here.
PETER: So what encouragement do you have, what
are your contacts and how can people
reach you?
UCHE: Our e-mail address is
youthliberationng.com. and you can also reach me on the phone number
08039460521. You can reach me if you are out there, tired of terrorism for one reason
or the other you got yourself involved in it, especially, if you want to come out
and do not know how to. You are a militant in the Niger Delta area; you want to
come out and do not know how. If you are also a member of any secret cult on
campus, you want to come out and you don’t know how to come out, even when you
choose to come out, how do you stand against the molestation and attack and
everything they bring your way? Please call me, I will tell you because this is
what we have been doing. Many, even in Abuja, we have so many people working in
different ministries, private organizations
that have gone through our organizations and they are doing well today, so we
will be glad to be of help to you, and we need encouragement from individuals,
from the government and whosoever God touches his heart to do such.
PETER: Thank you!
UCHE: You are welcome.
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